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	<title>Comments on: Prenatal Care and Health Care for Illegal Immigrants</title>
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		<title>By: neutral</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>neutral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to say that some of the comments posted are really sad. I like what dani said. If the United States put out the immigrants who would do all the dirty work? Most Americans sit on their buttts and complian. They don't want to get on top of buildings and cut grass for major compainies or build decks in the heat or rain. The immigrants do. They understand the really meaning of taking care of home. They will get down in the mud and stay out in the dangerous heat for hours just to make sure that their family has food to eat and clothes on their backs. So as far as the one reader that called them ignorant, you are ignorant. How about you spend one day doing the work that they do. You wouldn't maintain, You would complain all day and probably quit. That is another thing, they are not quitters. 
Yes, there are some that come here and make it bad for the ones that are really trying to do something with their lives. Now to me, the ones that commit crimes should be sent back over the borders and kept in prison there. Prison in the United States may be the best thing that ever happend to them. As crazy as it may seem, it really might be, Think about it, in prison they get three free meals, cbale, clean sheets and clean clothes. All for free. Where as if they were sent back to their homes, they know that they would suffer more there than they would here.
As for the pregnant immigrants, give the baby a chance. if they go without healthcare, then they are at risk of spending major tax dollars. Where as if they get healthcare, they can avoid serious illnesses and avodi spending our tax dollars on that.
Stop balming immigrants for the way things are. Honestly, where I am from, they all took one day off and business had to shut down. Seriously. There was no one to clean, cook or build. I think that day was a really bad day, but it should have been an eye opener.
There are legal residents that are worse than illegal immigrants. So stop pointing the finger and being racist. Get a grip on life and take care of you and your family and be thankful that there are people here that are willing to do your dirty work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say that some of the comments posted are really sad. I like what dani said. If the United States put out the immigrants who would do all the dirty work? Most Americans sit on their buttts and complian. They don&#8217;t want to get on top of buildings and cut grass for major compainies or build decks in the heat or rain. The immigrants do. They understand the really meaning of taking care of home. They will get down in the mud and stay out in the dangerous heat for hours just to make sure that their family has food to eat and clothes on their backs. So as far as the one reader that called them ignorant, you are ignorant. How about you spend one day doing the work that they do. You wouldn&#8217;t maintain, You would complain all day and probably quit. That is another thing, they are not quitters.<br />
Yes, there are some that come here and make it bad for the ones that are really trying to do something with their lives. Now to me, the ones that commit crimes should be sent back over the borders and kept in prison there. Prison in the United States may be the best thing that ever happend to them. As crazy as it may seem, it really might be, Think about it, in prison they get three free meals, cbale, clean sheets and clean clothes. All for free. Where as if they were sent back to their homes, they know that they would suffer more there than they would here.<br />
As for the pregnant immigrants, give the baby a chance. if they go without healthcare, then they are at risk of spending major tax dollars. Where as if they get healthcare, they can avoid serious illnesses and avodi spending our tax dollars on that.<br />
Stop balming immigrants for the way things are. Honestly, where I am from, they all took one day off and business had to shut down. Seriously. There was no one to clean, cook or build. I think that day was a really bad day, but it should have been an eye opener.<br />
There are legal residents that are worse than illegal immigrants. So stop pointing the finger and being racist. Get a grip on life and take care of you and your family and be thankful that there are people here that are willing to do your dirty work.</p>
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		<title>By: RoPray</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>RoPray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am doing a presentation on the effect illegal immigrants are having on US healthcare - and I want to make a big impact with an opening demo with 2 jars of pennies - one almost empty representing how much $$ assistance a US veteran gets, one full to show how much an illegal immigrant gets…any guidance you can give me to find numbers/stories to use??? Thanks!! Glad I found this site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am doing a presentation on the effect illegal immigrants are having on US healthcare - and I want to make a big impact with an opening demo with 2 jars of pennies - one almost empty representing how much $$ assistance a US veteran gets, one full to show how much an illegal immigrant gets…any guidance you can give me to find numbers/stories to use??? Thanks!! Glad I found this site!</p>
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		<title>By: laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator>laughing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they're all not uneducated. lol</description>
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		<title>By: special</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>special</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let me tell you some thing to the last comment what the f**** is on your mind you don't know what are illegal ppl r goin threw b4 you talk pay attention to how ather ppl are living ok

Mayb some ppl r lucky 2 b here because they wore born here but in the other hand most of us don't have another choice to come here is not are fult and you are an ignorent busterd who doesn't know how hard other ppl live

So next time shut your mouth b4 you talk sh**** you ediot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let me tell you some thing to the last comment what the f**** is on your mind you don&#8217;t know what are illegal ppl r goin threw b4 you talk pay attention to how ather ppl are living ok</p>
<p>Mayb some ppl r lucky 2 b here because they wore born here but in the other hand most of us don&#8217;t have another choice to come here is not are fult and you are an ignorent busterd who doesn&#8217;t know how hard other ppl live</p>
<p>So next time shut your mouth b4 you talk sh**** you ediot</p>
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		<title>By: Multiplicitor</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Multiplicitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would rather continue to mow my own grass as I have done for years rather than be forced to pay for food stamps and medical bills of drug runners, rapists and worse.
It is great to have immigrants. It is bad to think that illegal aliens are immigrants, they are low class uneducated ID thieves and scammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rather continue to mow my own grass as I have done for years rather than be forced to pay for food stamps and medical bills of drug runners, rapists and worse.<br />
It is great to have immigrants. It is bad to think that illegal aliens are immigrants, they are low class uneducated ID thieves and scammers.</p>
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		<title>By: dani rangel</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>dani rangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all talk about closing the borders and kicking illegal aliens out but your ignorant minds don't go as far as seeing what would actually happen if all those people left.....who would work in Construction, Roofing, Housekeeping, Landscaping..Out in the fields and the farms...All the hard labor and jobs requiring being outside in the sun are done by 80% Hispanic people that are also illegal. Just look at the economy right now, sadly because a  few people have been kicked out already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all talk about closing the borders and kicking illegal aliens out but your ignorant minds don&#8217;t go as far as seeing what would actually happen if all those people left&#8230;..who would work in Construction, Roofing, Housekeeping, Landscaping..Out in the fields and the farms&#8230;All the hard labor and jobs requiring being outside in the sun are done by 80% Hispanic people that are also illegal. Just look at the economy right now, sadly because a  few people have been kicked out already.</p>
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		<title>By: Angalique Collis</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Angalique Collis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Our hospital is going belly up for paying all their bills and yet my daughter can't get help for serious eye problems.The gangs have taken over our once nice town with all their meth, you don't hear English anymore in the stores,the parks are taken over.You go to an Easter Egg hunt,the women push the little white kids down and give their kids the eggs, it happened to my kids and we stopped going. They carry no insurance if they get in an accident with you,their court cases for shooting each other over bad drug deals is costing our county  in the millions, and they got a terrible attitude like, you owe me.What is wrong with the people supporting them? Let them take them into their homes then and house and feed them. My boyfriend lost his job to the Illegals up in Washington because they are cheaper,but they did such a lousey job he had to re-do everything. They laughed and pointed at him when they kept their jobs and he walked away cause the boss wanted to save an extra buck.My Uncle was telling me about a 60 some year old Illegal who was bragging about getting social security after being here only two months.My best friend who is crippled up for life with a crushed disc who has worked all her life can't get it.What is going on? I feel anyone who supports this are traitors to our country .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Our hospital is going belly up for paying all their bills and yet my daughter can&#8217;t get help for serious eye problems.The gangs have taken over our once nice town with all their meth, you don&#8217;t hear English anymore in the stores,the parks are taken over.You go to an Easter Egg hunt,the women push the little white kids down and give their kids the eggs, it happened to my kids and we stopped going. They carry no insurance if they get in an accident with you,their court cases for shooting each other over bad drug deals is costing our county  in the millions, and they got a terrible attitude like, you owe me.What is wrong with the people supporting them? Let them take them into their homes then and house and feed them. My boyfriend lost his job to the Illegals up in Washington because they are cheaper,but they did such a lousey job he had to re-do everything. They laughed and pointed at him when they kept their jobs and he walked away cause the boss wanted to save an extra buck.My Uncle was telling me about a 60 some year old Illegal who was bragging about getting social security after being here only two months.My best friend who is crippled up for life with a crushed disc who has worked all her life can&#8217;t get it.What is going on? I feel anyone who supports this are traitors to our country .</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me just tell you that I have been raised here in the United States since I was 6 years old. I speak, read, and write English better then most Americans. Getting citizenship here isn't as easy as snapping your fingers. I was on a non working Visa until it expired when I was 18. They told me to go back to Europe, where I'm from, and re apply. But I would have to make a life for myself there until, and IF, I get accepted for a working Visa. Now, since I have overstayed my Visa for 2 years if I leave the country I can't come back for 10 years ..Not even as a tourist. So tell me, what would you do? My parent's brought me here, and sure I blame them for not getting us citizenship when me and my sisters were young. But that is all in the past, and there is nothing I can do to change it. SO please...illegal...or in my case over extended immigrants aren't always people who "snuck the over the border". I came here legally. Period point blank. But I am still denied work, status, healthcare, etc. So I am still here, pregnant and engaged....and getting prenatal care for my baby has been draining. I am paying cash because there is no other way for me to get medicaid. My fiance and I have to get married for my status so I can provide as well as him. 

So please don't act like you know everything about 'illegal immigrants' unless you can open up your mind a little more. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me just tell you that I have been raised here in the United States since I was 6 years old. I speak, read, and write English better then most Americans. Getting citizenship here isn&#8217;t as easy as snapping your fingers. I was on a non working Visa until it expired when I was 18. They told me to go back to Europe, where I&#8217;m from, and re apply. But I would have to make a life for myself there until, and IF, I get accepted for a working Visa. Now, since I have overstayed my Visa for 2 years if I leave the country I can&#8217;t come back for 10 years ..Not even as a tourist. So tell me, what would you do? My parent&#8217;s brought me here, and sure I blame them for not getting us citizenship when me and my sisters were young. But that is all in the past, and there is nothing I can do to change it. SO please&#8230;illegal&#8230;or in my case over extended immigrants aren&#8217;t always people who &#8220;snuck the over the border&#8221;. I came here legally. Period point blank. But I am still denied work, status, healthcare, etc. So I am still here, pregnant and engaged&#8230;.and getting prenatal care for my baby has been draining. I am paying cash because there is no other way for me to get medicaid. My fiance and I have to get married for my status so I can provide as well as him. </p>
<p>So please don&#8217;t act like you know everything about &#8216;illegal immigrants&#8217; unless you can open up your mind a little more. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: juani</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>juani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and p.s. NO your taxes would NOT be cut in half...since millions of tax payer dollars are spent DAILY on the war on Iraq.  stop using the immigrant problem as a scapegoat, America. dont forget, the 9/11 attackers were NOT illegal immigrants. they were fully legal through the US system. that just makes you think even more about how the system's priorties are so convoluted. and No, america, not all immigrants, whether legal or not, pose a national security threat. has american soil not experianced a terrorist act in Oklahoma BY AN AMERICAN CITIZEN? and..wadsn't there an AMERICAN actually involved in 9/11. no he wasn't hispanic. he was black. so he was BORN HERE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and p.s. NO your taxes would NOT be cut in half&#8230;since millions of tax payer dollars are spent DAILY on the war on Iraq.  stop using the immigrant problem as a scapegoat, America. dont forget, the 9/11 attackers were NOT illegal immigrants. they were fully legal through the US system. that just makes you think even more about how the system&#8217;s priorties are so convoluted. and No, america, not all immigrants, whether legal or not, pose a national security threat. has american soil not experianced a terrorist act in Oklahoma BY AN AMERICAN CITIZEN? and..wadsn&#8217;t there an AMERICAN actually involved in 9/11. no he wasn&#8217;t hispanic. he was black. so he was BORN HERE.</p>
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		<title>By: juani</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/11/18/prenatal-care-and-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>juani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in response to the last comment, what if they DO learn the language AND educate themselves and are WILLING to pay taxes...but CAN'T. Those who think illegal immigrants "dodge" paying taxes are just ignorant of what the illegal community really goes through. immigrants CANNOT have a driver's license. they do not have the right to a legal job to put food on their own table, let alone their families table. therefore, they DO NOT have social security benefits to begin with. they have jobs where they are taken advantage of BECAUSE they have no health insurance option and get paid very very little. so what about a minor who had no choice but to come here with her family, goes to school, knows more english than spanish, graduates with honors, volunteers in the AMERICAN community...but CANNOT even further her education becuase of school costs since she isn't entitled to scholarships AND she CANT get a job since she has no drivers license OR social securtiy.   what if (whether pregnant or not) she has a life threatening situation. she probably never really had adequate health care since being in the US because she wasn't entitled to it, but her familiy's last resort was to send her to any hospital, since the other option would be death in her home? what if it was your family? what if US fell under bad dictatorship and/or tyranny or even just had widespread disease breakout or just bad government of some kind that you were forced to flee THIS country? what if despite learning another language in a brand new country, working as a janitor despite having gone through years of college here, and not having the luxury of being able to go legally to that new country because so many other americans fled, therefore causing that country to constantly deny visas and legal status? what  would you do? what is they closed those borders? people who are narrow-minded enough to think this way are just ignorant, becuase they were born with a silver spoon. they were BORN here. they didnt WORK for it. it was just theur LUCK. so what makes them any more deserving? everyone has the right to better their lives, and the bad conditions immigrants in the US live under is just a testament to how worse it is in their own country. is it their fault they were born there? is it your fault you were born here? the only difference is LUCK-and NOTHING else. i do not advocate immigrants overrunning this or any other country. i do advocate sympathy for human life and understanding that not everyone was born out of LUCK into the US or any other decent country. so in order to solve this problem, human compassion must be applied in order to even begin to understand the situation. the answer is NOT to blame these immigrants for "dodging" taxes that the government doesn't even give them the OPTION to pay, or learing a language that would take time out of their 12 hour shift days at 7 dollars an hour to learn and yet wouldn't get them anywhere since learning enlgish DOES NOT legalize anyone. Coming into a country illegally is not a DECISION, its a last resort. that's COMMON sense. no one has the option of coming legally or illegally and choses the ltter. they have NO CHOICE. and just to point out, legalizing immigrants would most likely trun this recessive economy around if anything, since its a fact that hispanics own just as many businesses and move the economy more. if the 12 million immigrants (or even HALF of them) had decent jobs that paid them more, they'd have time ti go out and buy, circculate the economy, and PAY for their own health care. unlike the many AMERICAN CITIZENS who are considered fat pigs, have social security benefits, have drivers licenses, have their health and youth, dont work half as hard at school and still get into college, and STILL get access to public health care even though they are well capable of having decent paying jobs to pay for it themselves? so a person like this is acceptable to get all this aforementioned help JUST because they were kucky enough to be born at vthe right place at the right time through no fault of their own, but a pregnant immigrant getting half this help in monetary value is considered an abomination just because she was born in the wrong place through no fault of their own? what if the shoe was in the other foot? just think about it. dont point  the finger. just think about it? is anyone really at fault?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in response to the last comment, what if they DO learn the language AND educate themselves and are WILLING to pay taxes&#8230;but CAN&#8217;T. Those who think illegal immigrants &#8220;dodge&#8221; paying taxes are just ignorant of what the illegal community really goes through. immigrants CANNOT have a driver&#8217;s license. they do not have the right to a legal job to put food on their own table, let alone their families table. therefore, they DO NOT have social security benefits to begin with. they have jobs where they are taken advantage of BECAUSE they have no health insurance option and get paid very very little. so what about a minor who had no choice but to come here with her family, goes to school, knows more english than spanish, graduates with honors, volunteers in the AMERICAN community&#8230;but CANNOT even further her education becuase of school costs since she isn&#8217;t entitled to scholarships AND she CANT get a job since she has no drivers license OR social securtiy.   what if (whether pregnant or not) she has a life threatening situation. she probably never really had adequate health care since being in the US because she wasn&#8217;t entitled to it, but her familiy&#8217;s last resort was to send her to any hospital, since the other option would be death in her home? what if it was your family? what if US fell under bad dictatorship and/or tyranny or even just had widespread disease breakout or just bad government of some kind that you were forced to flee THIS country? what if despite learning another language in a brand new country, working as a janitor despite having gone through years of college here, and not having the luxury of being able to go legally to that new country because so many other americans fled, therefore causing that country to constantly deny visas and legal status? what  would you do? what is they closed those borders? people who are narrow-minded enough to think this way are just ignorant, becuase they were born with a silver spoon. they were BORN here. they didnt WORK for it. it was just theur LUCK. so what makes them any more deserving? everyone has the right to better their lives, and the bad conditions immigrants in the US live under is just a testament to how worse it is in their own country. is it their fault they were born there? is it your fault you were born here? the only difference is LUCK-and NOTHING else. i do not advocate immigrants overrunning this or any other country. i do advocate sympathy for human life and understanding that not everyone was born out of LUCK into the US or any other decent country. so in order to solve this problem, human compassion must be applied in order to even begin to understand the situation. the answer is NOT to blame these immigrants for &#8220;dodging&#8221; taxes that the government doesn&#8217;t even give them the OPTION to pay, or learing a language that would take time out of their 12 hour shift days at 7 dollars an hour to learn and yet wouldn&#8217;t get them anywhere since learning enlgish DOES NOT legalize anyone. Coming into a country illegally is not a DECISION, its a last resort. that&#8217;s COMMON sense. no one has the option of coming legally or illegally and choses the ltter. they have NO CHOICE. and just to point out, legalizing immigrants would most likely trun this recessive economy around if anything, since its a fact that hispanics own just as many businesses and move the economy more. if the 12 million immigrants (or even HALF of them) had decent jobs that paid them more, they&#8217;d have time ti go out and buy, circculate the economy, and PAY for their own health care. unlike the many AMERICAN CITIZENS who are considered fat pigs, have social security benefits, have drivers licenses, have their health and youth, dont work half as hard at school and still get into college, and STILL get access to public health care even though they are well capable of having decent paying jobs to pay for it themselves? so a person like this is acceptable to get all this aforementioned help JUST because they were kucky enough to be born at vthe right place at the right time through no fault of their own, but a pregnant immigrant getting half this help in monetary value is considered an abomination just because she was born in the wrong place through no fault of their own? what if the shoe was in the other foot? just think about it. dont point  the finger. just think about it? is anyone really at fault?</p>
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